NEW ZEALAND POTTERY
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Latest topics
» Help with potter ID please?
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyFri 17 May 2024, 11:33 pm by Pippa J

» Crown Lynn teapot shape 787 courtesy of Manos
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyFri 17 May 2024, 8:47 pm by Ev

» Critters d731
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyFri 17 May 2024, 6:52 am by JanPots

» Blue Daisy Spray Pattern
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyFri 17 May 2024, 4:07 am by Kat & Co.

» Oakley Lodge
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyFri 17 May 2024, 3:50 am by Kat & Co.

» 154 Swan mould from Crown Lynn
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyWed 15 May 2024, 8:38 am by ro

» Jack Krsinich - Foxton Beach
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyWed 15 May 2024, 5:09 am by ANNA KRSINICH

» Adrienne Smith
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyTue 14 May 2024, 7:45 pm by UrsulaC

» Studio Ceramics Villagio and Porto
vase - Pink Shell Vase EmptyTue 14 May 2024, 4:25 am by signal red

Pink Shell Vase

+2
Ev
Kat & Co.
6 posters

Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Pink Shell Vase

Post  Kat & Co. Tue 16 Dec 2014, 6:23 am

The more I look at this vase the more I think it looks CL like the Santa Jug..?
Spray painted its pink & black & 9cmh which is quite little. cat
vase - Pink Shell Vase Shell_10
this pic is the best colour match it looks chipped on top this side but isnt
vase - Pink Shell Vase Shell_11
vase - Pink Shell Vase Shell_12
vase - Pink Shell Vase Shell410
Kat & Co.
Kat & Co.

Number of posts : 2314
Location : Whangarei
Registration date : 2012-12-03

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  Ev Tue 16 Dec 2014, 6:27 am

There is one at the Museum Kat and they say that it's made by Titian Potteries and we don't have it in the Gallery cheers

Santa aeee...... and yes he may well be Titian too heheheee

If anyone doesn't agree, please feel free to let us know your reasons why.
Ev
Ev
Admin

Number of posts : 17755
Location : Sth Auckland New Zealand
Interests: : NZ Studio Pottery and NZ Pottery History
Registration date : 2008-08-28

http://newzealandpottery.net

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  teaandcoffee Tue 16 Dec 2014, 10:22 am

This is actually pre-Titian I think - Sherwood days probably.

teaandcoffee

Number of posts : 332
Registration date : 2012-04-22

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  haselnuss Wed 17 Dec 2014, 1:30 am

Hello, You are kind off both right.

There is a picture of the vase in Gail Henrys book on page 151 and she says that it is a Sherwood piece that was continued to be produced during the Titian Studio Henderson era.

I have got two that have coloured gloss glazed paint finish. One has 3 faint numbers on the base that I think reads 145.

This would make sense because the pine cone on the picture next to the vase on page 151 is numbered 143.

My 145 numbered one must be Sherwood, unless Titian used a different number system in the early days, because the pine cone in the Titian gallery has the number V.106.

I'd like to know if Spartan used both coloured gloss glaze and airbrushed bisque finishes or just the airbrushed bisque finish.

Kat, is your one bisque or gloss glazed? It looks gloss glazed to me. Can you have another close look at the base? The numbers on my one are very faint embossed or scratched in at the middle of the base.
haselnuss
haselnuss

Number of posts : 970
Registration date : 2012-09-12

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  haselnuss Wed 17 Dec 2014, 1:43 am

I just had another look in the book and she talks about a Spartan Koala with the number 166 on page 179.

Also that Spartan made bisque-fired wares which were decorated by women using paints and lacquers.

I don't know much about firing pottery other than what I learned at school and hobby pottery classes.

Does lacquer fired bisque ware look like the Titian gloss glaze fired pieces or is it like the Salisbury bisque ware where the colours come off when washing in water?
haselnuss
haselnuss

Number of posts : 970
Registration date : 2012-09-12

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  Kat & Co. Wed 17 Dec 2014, 2:30 am

Yes its very glossy inside & out & has no numbers visible.
Kat & Co.
Kat & Co.

Number of posts : 2314
Location : Whangarei
Registration date : 2012-12-03

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  Jeremy Ashford Wed 17 Dec 2014, 2:34 am

Kat, I will be away until the New Year but you are welcome to compare it with my Santa when I get back. To me the red/pink colour is a perfect match for Santa.

I know this has been identified as Titian with information from more than one source but I see that neither of the two numbers mentioned by haselnuss (145, 166) is occupied in the Crown Lynn gallery.
Jeremy Ashford
Jeremy Ashford

Number of posts : 3193
Location : Whangarei, New Zealand
Registration date : 2010-09-11

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  haselnuss Wed 17 Dec 2014, 2:44 am

I am pretty sure that the number 145 and 166 are Spartan numbers at least that is how I understand it in both of Gail Lamberts books.
haselnuss
haselnuss

Number of posts : 970
Registration date : 2012-09-12

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  Ev Wed 17 Dec 2014, 3:03 am

haselnuss the 143 number on page 151 relates to the Sherwood mark on page 237 and the Spartan 166 relates to their mark on page 240. These are not shape numbers but references to find the marks.
Ev
Ev
Admin

Number of posts : 17755
Location : Sth Auckland New Zealand
Interests: : NZ Studio Pottery and NZ Pottery History
Registration date : 2008-08-28

http://newzealandpottery.net

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  haselnuss Wed 17 Dec 2014, 3:23 am

What a bu....

I was so convinced that I had found the proper numbers. I have learned some more today. I have to hold my head in shame, again.

But the number under the shell vase does look like the number 145. So could it be a Titian number after all.

I looked up more Spartan ware on Google and on an auction site and they don't look glossy glazed more like Salisbury painted their wares.
haselnuss
haselnuss

Number of posts : 970
Registration date : 2012-09-12

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  Ev Wed 17 Dec 2014, 3:58 am

I made the same mistake when I first got Gail Henry's book and I'm sure that others would have too. We have a Spartan topic which may help answer your questions.
Ev
Ev
Admin

Number of posts : 17755
Location : Sth Auckland New Zealand
Interests: : NZ Studio Pottery and NZ Pottery History
Registration date : 2008-08-28

http://newzealandpottery.net

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  dollcrown Wed 17 Dec 2014, 7:28 pm

Have never come across a glazed Spartan piece in the past after many years of collecting.

dollcrown

Number of posts : 255
Registration date : 2011-01-08

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  Ev Wed 17 Dec 2014, 7:32 pm

This Spartan gnome from Manos is salt glazed ...

https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t941-salt-glazed-spartan-gnome
Ev
Ev
Admin

Number of posts : 17755
Location : Sth Auckland New Zealand
Interests: : NZ Studio Pottery and NZ Pottery History
Registration date : 2008-08-28

http://newzealandpottery.net

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  dollcrown Thu 18 Dec 2014, 3:21 am

That's a lovely piece all right. Had forgotten about saltglazed.

dollcrown

Number of posts : 255
Registration date : 2011-01-08

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  teaandcoffee Mon 22 Dec 2014, 12:13 am

Here's a Sherwood one. The mark is a touch light unfortunately.

vase - Pink Shell Vase Dscf0410

vase - Pink Shell Vase Dscf0411

teaandcoffee

Number of posts : 332
Registration date : 2012-04-22

Back to top Go down

vase - Pink Shell Vase Empty Re: Pink Shell Vase

Post  haselnuss Tue 23 Dec 2014, 8:12 pm

That is great! Sherwood is early Titian and now we know that the glazed ones were made by the Brown family.
haselnuss
haselnuss

Number of posts : 970
Registration date : 2012-09-12

Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum